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Grognar Lolz · Feb 02, 2008, 06:15 AM // 06:15

Does anybody have good PvE Lyssa or Melandru builds they could post? I just started my Dervish and want to get some good builds to start it off. I can get all the tomes i need, and I can get Aura of Holy Might if i need it

Please post all the Lyssa and Melandru builds you have!

Thanks.

Destromath · Feb 02, 2008, 06:46 AM // 06:46

Generic Lyssa builds are based on being able to attack as quick as possible in as short time as possible, so you'll need an IAS and some activation time skills. With that said, this is usually a good starting point:

[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill][skill]Protector's Strike[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill]

From there, you can just insert whatever else you feel like. Some good options would be energy management ([skill=text]Zealous Renewal[/skill], although it isn't really needed if you have a Zealous Scythe), self defense ([skill=text]Conviction[/skill] and/or [skill=text]Mystic Regeneration[/skill] are good for starters), or more attack skills as you see fit ([skill=text]Victorious Sweep[/skill] and Zealous Sweep are decent options).

I haven't played a Melandru build in PvE at all though, so I can't help you there.

Also, Aura of Holy Might is essential to all PvE Dervish builds unless you absolutely need every single skill in the build you're running. And yes, it's that good XD.

Typically, runes would either go as:
Scythe Mastery: 12+1+1
Mysticism: 12+1

Or if you're running Earth Prayers as well, this is pretty standard:
Scythe Mastery: 11+1+1
Mysticism: 11+1
Earth Prayers: 8+1

For HM, I would reccomend staying away from Avatar of Lyssa due to the faster activation times that all enemies have, which leads to less hits benefitting from the damage bonus that it gives.

Pyro maniac · Feb 02, 2008, 09:44 AM // 09:44

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Originally Posted by Pyro maniac

AoM

make a bar with [skill]Avatar of Melandru[/skill]
consider using it with [skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Protector's Strike[/skill][skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Wearying Strike[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill]
for defense stick with [skill]Imbue health[/skill][skill]Mystic Vigor[/skill][skill]Watchful Intervention[/skill]
[skill]Conviction[/skill]is also usefull if you don't use the warrior stances

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Coloneh · Feb 02, 2008, 04:53 PM // 16:53

My usual lyssa bar for PvE:

Wild blow
Mystic sweep
Eremite's Attack
"I am the strongest" (or Rez)
Lyssa
Eternal Aura
Heart of Fury
Aura of Holy Might

12+1+1 scythe
12+1 myst
lotsa norn points

zealous 15^50 of enchanting scythe

the attack skills are interchangeable for things like victorious sweep, protector's strike or bull's strike.

DeXyre · Feb 02, 2008, 05:47 PM // 17:47

I pretty much use the about the same as Coloneh (but always with the res though)
Another small difference: myst 12+1+1 and scythe 12+1 here

Coloneh · Feb 02, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

always bring rez when playing with players. but i almost always H/H because players are godawful.

Grognar Lolz · Feb 02, 2008, 11:09 PM // 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

My usual lyssa bar for PvE:

Wild blow
Mystic sweep
Eremite's Attack
"I am the strongest" (or Rez)
Lyssa
Eternal Aura
Heart of Fury
Aura of Holy Might

12+1+1 scythe
12+1 myst
lotsa norn points

zealous 15^50 of enchanting scythe

the attack skills are interchangeable for things like victorious sweep, protector's strike or bull's strike.

Would it be better to replace wild blow with Radiant Scythe?

And thanks for all of the builds so far guys

Dervo · Feb 03, 2008, 05:11 AM // 05:11

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Originally Posted by Grognar Lolz

Would it be better to replace wild blow with Radiant Scythe?

And thanks for all of the builds so far guys

Naw, a guaranteed critical hit on a scythe that cannot be blocked and removes a stance is better than a maximum of +53 dmg (if you are running a sup scythe rune and hood). The 2 second faster activation time on radiant scythe doesn't really make up for it either. Of course, wild blow makes you take warrior, but it really is a good secondary for dervs, see the other warrior skills mentioned in this thread.

Coloneh · Feb 03, 2008, 07:09 AM // 07:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grognar Lolz

Would it be better to replace wild blow with Radiant Scythe?

And thanks for all of the builds so far guys

naw I wouldnt drop wild blow. you could replace on of the other attack skills though. you mostly end up getting to lazy to time them during spells anyways.

as a sidenote, Radiant scythe fits easily in any build with a zealous scythe, you shouldnt need the bonus from lyssa to have your energy around 20.

Der_Pardner · Feb 03, 2008, 08:59 AM // 08:59

my lyssa pve build:
D/W

Scythe 12+3+1
Mysticism 10+2
Earth Prayers 8+1

[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Eremite's Attack[/skill][skill]Wild Blow[/skill][skill]Vital Boon[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill][skill]Heart of Holy Flame[/skill][skill]Eternal Aura[/skill]

eternal aura unknown skill !

Sirius-NZ · Feb 03, 2008, 01:31 PM // 13:31

I don't think Vital Boon is worth having, but your choice I suppose. At least it feeds Mystic Sweep a bit. If it were up to me and I wanted a defensive-ish skill I'd use Great Dwarf Armor instead though, since it helps survivability more and still has 100% uptime.

Also, unless you don't have it, AoHM is better than HoHF.

brakner · Feb 05, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Basic build I run with PvE or on a Hero. Enough enchantments for +10 regen and max Mystic Sweep. I like a balance of offense and defense, this build survives pretty much anything in any zone and does good consistent damage. With 45 energy you can cycle your two sweeps non stop while maintaining your defenses.

[skill]Mystic Sweep[/skill][skill]Victorious Sweep[/skill][skill]Avatar of Lyssa[/skill][skill]Heart of Fury[/skill][skill]Faithful Intervention[/skill][skill]Vital Boon[/skill][skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill][skill]Conviction[/skill]

Sir Pandra Pierva · Feb 05, 2008, 06:18 PM // 18:18

i dont feel like using tags and you said you wanted a ava of mel build
Avatar of mel
AoHM
eternal aura
wearying strike
mysitc
ermites
rush or what ever you want
rez

~ Dan ~ · Feb 05, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

i dont feel like using tags and you said you wanted a ava of mel build
Avatar of mel
AoHM
eternal aura
wearying strike
mysitc
ermites
rush or what ever you want
rez

Heart of Fury instead of mystic sweep.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Feb 05, 2008, 09:51 PM // 21:51

personally i would drop rush for it for PVE and in pvp use it in place of eternal aura
thats my take.

~ Dan ~ · Feb 05, 2008, 10:56 PM // 22:56

In PvP you'd probably want imbue health.

Darkside · Feb 06, 2008, 12:22 AM // 00:22

I'd personally say the only required skills that are absolutely needed with [skill]Avatar of Melandru[/skill] are [skill]wearying strike[/skill] and [skill]Eternal Aura[/skill].

[skill]Aura of Holy Might[/skill] should be on every dervish bar. [skill]heart of fury[/skill] should also be there unless you have some other IAS skill.

Here's a few builds I use:

--Melandru Build--

[skill]avatar of melandru[/skill]
[skill]aura of holy might[/skill]
[skill]heart of fury[/skill] or [skill]flail[/skill]
[skill]eternal aura[/skill]
[skill]wearying strike[/skill]
rest are optional

--Lyssa Build--

[skill]avatar of lyssa[/skill]
[skill]aura of holy might[/skill]
[skill]heart of fury[/skill]
[skill]eternal aura[/skill]
[skill]mystic sweep[/skill]
[skill]eremite's attack[/skill]
rest are optional